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EU expansion - UNE - 07-28-2009
When do you think they will eventually allow Albania, Bosina, Serbia in the EU? What order do you think and what time frame?
Re: EU expansion - 55° N - 13° E - 07-28-2009
UNE Wrote:When do you think they will eventually allow Albania, Bosina, Serbia in the EU? What order do you think and what time frame?Too soon, if I can say what I really think. :nonnon In any case it will be first Bosnia then Albania and last Serbian.
The order (as I predict it) has little to do with their individual merits but more to do with EU and UN "guilt feelings" for doing nothing during the "ethnic cleansing" that went on there. However, even if all three will be let in at the same time it will be made publically clear that the "decision" to let in Serbian will have been made last.
Re: EU expansion - Faw_Peter - 07-28-2009
not too soon! these countries still have to do some serious points imposed by the EU! will soon join Cruatia, after which I think Iceland cause has been strongly hit by the crisis and needs help! According to the Commission Albania has to progresse in some imposed points like corruption and crime etc Regarding Bosnia and Serbia they never asked to join! I think firts will Be Albania then Bosnia and the last Serbia! but I doubt cause the last two tend to independence
Re: EU expansion - 55° N - 13° E - 07-29-2009
Faw_Peter Wrote:..... Regarding Bosnia and Serbia they never asked to join! .....Really? I didn´t know that.
Re: EU expansion - Faw_Peter - 07-29-2009
Serbia and Bosnia want to be independent! these two are not supported by all countries that 's why they still have not got it! I believe they will only join if will be required or will need the help of the EU!
Re: EU expansion - 55° N - 13° E - 07-29-2009
Faw_Peter Wrote:Serbia and Bosnia ..... I believe they will only join if will be required or will need the help of the EU!I believe that describes most member-states. If there´s no advantage there´s no reason to join.
Re: EU expansion - Steven - 07-29-2009
And what about Ukraine, Moldova .. have this country a place in UE? they a peacefull, first is big ..the second is green... what will be with those two?
Re: EU expansion - 55° N - 13° E - 07-30-2009
Steven Wrote:And what about Ukraine, Moldova .. have this country a place in UE? they a peacefull, first is big ..the second is green... what will be with those two?I think some day they will be invited into the EU too.
Re: EU expansion - M.Helen - 07-30-2009
55° N - 13° E Wrote:I think some day they will be invited into the EU too.
I tend to believe that those three.. Albania ...Serbia and Bosnia will join UE after Ukraine and Moldova! at least that is what I want! must join those who desire and not those who a against(Serbia, Bosnia)
Re: EU expansion - Kusnetsov - 07-30-2009
Quote:I tend to believe that those three.. Albania ...Serbia and Bosnia will join UE after Ukraine and Moldova! at least that is what I want! must join those who desire and not those who a against(Serbia, Bosnia)
Have you ever been to Ukraine?
Re: EU expansion - 55° N - 13° E - 07-30-2009
Kusnetsov Wrote:I have been to the Ukraine and I think it is in much, much, much worse condition than Romania, Bulgaria, and Bosnia. As a matter of fact if I had to decide on Ukraine or Serbia joining the EU I don´t know what to say except ... NEITHER!Quote:I tend to believe that those three.. Albania ...Serbia and Bosnia will join UE after Ukraine and Moldova! at least that is what I want! must join those who desire and not those who a against(Serbia, Bosnia)
Have you ever been to Ukraine?
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Re: EU expansion - Kusnetsov - 07-30-2009
Quote:I have been to the Ukraine and I think it is in much, much, much worse condition than Romania, Bulgaria, and Bosnia. As a matter of fact if I had to decide on Ukraine or Serbia joining the EU I don´t know what to say except ... NEITHER!
And I live in Ukraine. This country isn't ready for EU. Because of government authorities first of all.
Re: EU expansion - M.Helen - 07-30-2009
Kusnetsov Wrote:Quote:Have you ever been to Ukraine?
yes I have! and not only once! I was twice in Crimea at rest and I liked a lot!
Re: EU expansion - Kusnetsov - 07-30-2009
Quote:yes I have! and not only once! I was twice in Crimea at rest and I liked a lot!
So why don't you come in Ukraine and live here. For a year or so. Maybe then you'll understand what is this country.
Re: EU expansion - M.Helen - 07-30-2009
I have been to the Ukraine and I think it is in much, much, much worse condition than Romania, Bulgaria, and Bosnia. As a matter of fact if I had to decide on Ukraine or Serbia joining the EU I don´t know what to say except ... NEITHER!
[/quote]you bitterly mistaken! I don't know if you have been in Romania but I was! if Romania entered the EU does not mean that they don't have mess and are superior! If you have the opportunity to visit RO go in a Gyspsies villages or in villages in general ! you will change your opinion quickly or you will be shocked! Ukraine is not anything infra! and not equal ,for sure !
Re: EU expansion - 55° N - 13° E - 07-30-2009
Kusnetsov Wrote:... I live in Ukraine. This country isn't ready for EU. Because of government authorities first of all.First of all, second of all, third of all and fourth of all.
I met some very kind people in the Ukraine so I would say that the problem is the government and nothing else. It is crazy to blame the mafia because the mafia IS the government and it is terribly corrupt.
M.Helen Wrote:you bitterly mistaken! I don't know if you have been in Romania but I was! ..... If you have the opportunity to visit RO go in a Gyspsies villages or in villages in general ! you will change your opinion quickly or you will be shocked! ...What am I "bitterly mistaken" about? I think you didn´t read my post.
I have been to Romania and I have been to many gypsy villages. I have been to every eastern country except Albania and Moldava. And most of my visits were during the communist time. My wife is from eastern Slovakia where there are many, many, gypsies and I have seen more gypsies and more eastern European villages than you have I´m sure. Did I tell you that Romania is a good member of the EU? No. I did not.
Re: EU expansion - M.Helen - 07-30-2009
55° N - 13° E Wrote:What am I "bitterly mistaken" about? I think you didn´t read my post.
I have been to Romania and I have been to many gypsy villages. I have been to every eastern country except Albania and Moldava. And most of my visits were during the communist time. My wife is from eastern Slovakia where there are many, many, gypsies and I have seen more gypsies and more eastern European villages than you have I´m sure. Did I tell you that Romania is a good member of the EU? No. I did not.
first of all, I read what you wrote! Secondly I understood in my way what you mean by saying that is much worse!cause you didn't point on something! So I tried to make a review about living and mess conditions ! My mistake that I forgot about political view!
Re: EU expansion - 55° N - 13° E - 07-31-2009
M.Helen Wrote:first of all, I read what you wrote! Secondly I understood in my way what you mean by saying that is much worse! cause you didn't point on something! So I tried to make a review about living and mess conditions ! My mistake that I forgot about political view!It is possible that I misunderstood what you "want" to say. I think the problem is that you use very many "!" in your posts. Using a lot of "!" means that you are angry or maybe you want to be loud or to shout at someone. It is very agressive.
Re: EU expansion - Kusnetsov - 07-31-2009
Quote:Ukraine is not anything infra! and not equal ,for sure !
If you want to know there're a lot of Gypsies in Ukraine. I myself had a lot of Gypsy friends (then they left Ukraine for better life). Gypsies are not the criteria of joining EU.
As a man who was born in Ukraine and live here permanently I tell you Ukrane is not ready for EU. EU will make a bankrupt if Ukraine enter EU.
Quote:I met some very kind people in the Ukraine so I would say that the problem is the government and nothing else.
Agree. Still people differ as all over the world.
Re: EU expansion - 55° N - 13° E - 07-31-2009
Kusnetsov Wrote:.. people differ as all over the world.Oh. I agree with you.