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Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Platon - 08-28-2008
Eka Wrote:Platon Wrote:this one as well.And Putin-Rasputin have very interesting
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Ekaaaaaaaaaaa what the question this is KGB. But he is not well qualified one, god sake. He can not lie so that it would seem true. Even russians don't believe hem any more.
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - SVP - 08-28-2008
Eka Wrote:To SVP
There is another opinion from same source about Skinvali bombing si you cAN SEE IT.UNFORTUNATLY IT IS rUSIAN ONLY.
Yes, I read it, and a lot like this. But this is a bit different, because she was in Georgia, not in Tshinvali at that moment. So what did she see? Nothing. She was only TOLD by Georgians what was happening, as she said.
Then goes her vision of Russia's policy and what Ossetia is in reality. You know why I don't like such journalists? Because they take sides, once and forever. I trust really independent info, when I see both sides as good and as bad simultaneously - Ossetians killed civilians and Georgians killed civilians, Russians killed civilians. Plus, my opinion is that women should do something else, but not try to understand the big men's games :-) Because women judge about such conflicts not in full scale, forgetting about geo-political issues, which are taking place in reality, but Latynina knows nothing about geo-politics. She's simplifying the conflict. She says there a 3 guys. A nice guy is Georgian, the Bad guy is Russian, and the Ossetian bandit in the middle.
Shortly, the diffrence between the two articles is that mine is just a story, a chronology, the journalist does not judge who is wrong and who is right, because that would be a political statement, which we don't need. We need facts - how it was. It's understood, that there's big politics behind all this. But yor link is a pure political statement by Latynina. I do not say, that she's lying everywhere though.
Such articles prove that we have openly anti-Russian journalists, openly anti-Kremlin newspapers and radio-stations. It's not only Latinina, we have many others.
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - SVP - 08-28-2008
Platon Wrote:This is for Benn for his gender study
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This is funny (from the article above):
- Russians, are show-offs?
- Show-offs, yes
- Like the Italians, then
- Not like the Italians. The Italians are like Georgians: all talk and nothing ever happens
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Benn - 08-28-2008
We should be careful what we read and whom we believe, since our opinion matters!
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Platon - 08-28-2008
SVP Wrote:Eka Wrote:To SVP
There is another opinion from same source about Skinvali bombing si you cAN SEE IT.UNFORTUNATLY IT IS rUSIAN ONLY.
Plus, my opinion is that women should do something else,
What you mean here?
are you misogyny or what?
woman is the friend of man as well!
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - lashachochua - 08-28-2008
SVP Wrote:lashachochua Wrote:O my god....How many times you have to say that you will not comment me, not providing my sayings but commenting meee....Hey man just keep your word, do not behave like your president, keep your word....and just live by your life....Do not comment me.......This is what you wanted.....Be man, real man and do what you said you will dooo.......... :nonnon :nonnon :nonnon :nonnon
Sorry, you're making me reply to you again, but its because you still cannot calm down and keep writing to me :-) What I said - I will'never REPLY to your comments and argue with you, because it's a simple loss of time. Was I ADDRESSING YOU? :-)
But, of course, I see what you write and feel free to give people my counter-opinion, otherwise it'll look like your monopoly for the truth again.
Relax.
Ok my friend, feel free to comment....work hard in order not to make me monopolize the truth ;-)
Your are funny, in reality you should be more pleasant person
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Eka - 08-28-2008
SVP Wrote:SVPPlaton Wrote:This is for Benn for his gender study
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This is funny (from the article above):
- Russians, are show-offs?
- Show-offs, yes
- Like the Italians, then
- Not like the Italians. The Italians are like Georgians: all talk and nothing ever happens
Only source that I can found In Russian - media are exo moskvi ( radio chanel with not big covarige),RTVI ( which is tv channel and cannot wathched in Russia only in some countries abroad), and grani.ru ( in internet there are some more but coevige of internet and intenet users ammount is not big in Russia).
And its questionable what is level of there independance.
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Platon - 08-28-2008
SVP Wrote:Platon Wrote:This is for Benn for his gender study
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This is funny (from the article above):
- Russians, are show-offs?
- Show-offs, yes
- Like the Italians, then
- Not like the Italians. The Italians are like Georgians: all talk and nothing ever happens
is not right, we are talking and talking but nothing useful comes out.
but the question what kind of useful talk you can conduct with the call-girl. Could you give me some receipt?
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Benn - 08-28-2008
Hey guys, I wanted to share the video I found in the internet. This is Zhyrinovskyi speaking on August 25, when the Russian Dumma was recognized the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
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Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Platon - 08-28-2008
Benn Wrote:Hey guys, I wanted to share the video I found in the internet. This is Zhyrinovskyi speaking on August 25, when the Russian Dumma was recognized the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
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I think he is your favour man.
he recently admitted that he was beaten from one georgian in the military service and that's why he hates georgians. but problem is that this georgian guy was alone there. the russian comrades did not help Zhirinovski.
so we don't need here Herr Freud.
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - lashachochua - 08-28-2008
Benn Wrote:Hey guys, I wanted to share the video I found in the internet. This is Zhyrinovskyi speaking on August 25, when the Russian Dumma was recognized the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
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Thank you benn, now I can sleep calmly. I missed him to see tonight :haha :haha :haha
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - lashachochua - 08-28-2008
Platon Wrote:SVP Wrote:Platon Wrote:This is for Benn for his gender study
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This is funny (from the article above):
- Russians, are show-offs?
- Show-offs, yes
- Like the Italians, then
- Not like the Italians. The Italians are like Georgians: all talk and nothing ever happens
is not right, we are talking and talking but nothing useful comes out.
but the question what kind of useful talk you can conduct with the call-girl. Could you give me some receipt?
:haha :haha :haha :haha :haha :haha :haha
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Eka - 08-28-2008
Platon Wrote:But we need Herr Freud in case of Putin! He have serious problems in childhod I suppose..Benn Wrote:Hey guys, I wanted to share the video I found in the internet. This is Zhyrinovskyi speaking on August 25, when the Russian Dumma was recognized the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
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I think he is your favour man.
he recently admitted that he was bitten from one georgian in the military service and that's why he hates georgians. but problem is that this georgian guy was alone there. the russian comrades did not help Zhirinovski.
so we don't need here Herr Freud.
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Benn - 08-28-2008
His speech is very convincing. I think he shocked the entire Duma
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Platon - 08-28-2008
Benn Wrote:His speech is very convincing. I think he shocked the entire Duma
In the Chechen war he told:" we don' t need to send militia with tanks. we can capture hole caucasus if send there 10 000 russian girls". It was his best statement in his marvelous live.
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - lashachochua - 08-28-2008
Platon Wrote:Benn Wrote:His speech is very convincing. I think he shocked the entire Duma
In the Chechen war he told:" we don' t need to send militia with tanks. we can capture hole caucasus if send there 10 000 russian girls". It was his best statement in his marvelous live.
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Platon - 08-28-2008
Eka Wrote:Eka the school of psychoanalysis doesn't understand Homosovieticus because, I quote, they are beyond of humanity.Platon Wrote:But we need Herr Freud in case of Putin! He have serious problems in childhod I suppose..Benn Wrote:Hey guys, I wanted to share the video I found in the internet. This is Zhyrinovskyi speaking on August 25, when the Russian Dumma was recognized the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
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I think he is your favour man.
he recently admitted that he was bitten from one georgian in the military service and that's why he hates georgians. but problem is that this georgian guy was alone there. the russian comrades did not help Zhirinovski.
so we don't need here Herr Freud.
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - lashachochua - 08-28-2008
Quote:so we don't need here Herr Freud.
Quote:But we need Herr Freud in case of Putin! He have serious problems in childhod I suppose..Eka the school of psychoanalysis doesn't understand Homosovieticus because, I quote, they are beyond of humanity.[/quote][/quote][/quote]
platon me amas winat ert-erts homosoveticusis azrovnebis adamiani uwode :haha :haha :haha
gavamagrot poziciebi, dges upro dzlierad gamoviyurebit, ai gushin da gushinwin magra blataobdnen :haha :haha
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Platon - 08-28-2008
lashachochua Wrote:[/quote][/quote]Quote:so we don't need here Herr Freud.Quote:But we need Herr Freud in case of Putin! He have serious problems in childhod I suppose..Eka the school of psychoanalysis doesn't understand Homosovieticus because, I quote, they are beyond of humanity.
platon me amas winat ert-erts homosoveticusis azrovnebis adamiani uwode :haha :haha :haha
gavamagrot poziciebi, dges upro dzlierad gamoviyurebit, ai gushin da gushinwin magra blataobdnen :haha :haha[/quote]
ra problemaa :livre
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Benn - 08-28-2008
Putin acts the way he has to, I think. Imagine Russia didn't respond to the attack on Tsishvili, what would the Russian citizens from South Ossetia think about Russia then? They want defense from Russia, they got it.
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Eka - 08-28-2008
Benn Wrote:Putin acts the way he has to, I think. Imagine Russia didn't respond to the attack on Tsishvili, what would the Russian citizens from South Ossetia think about Russia then? They want defense from Russia, they got it.Benn you are so naiv..
Who are ruissuan citizens? to whom peacekeepers gave passports? But what were they thinking about Russia when kokiti and his corrupted govermant dont let them to have normal healthcare? water, sanitation, roads and so on.. why you, Russians were not so frustrated about your citizrns. meanwile georgian govermant was bilding PH fasilities and schools, roads, water pipes and so on for them and Georgians who were living there?
So were was PUtin and his little brother Medvevdev when kokiti was putng in his pockets your money? or maybe this money was distributed in another pockets too? I more milin is not a bad thing i suppose...
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Platon - 08-28-2008
Benn Wrote:Putin acts the way he has to, I think. Imagine Russia didn't respond to the attack on Tsishvili, what would the Russian citizens from South Ossetia think about Russia then? They want defense from Russia, they got it.
He really cares of russian citizens. He has very nice methods to fulfill the job. Grozny, Nordost, Beslan, Kursk, Politkovskaja & Co. oh ja Litvinenko.
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Benn - 08-28-2008
Eka Wrote:Benn you are so naiv..
Who are ruissuan citizens? to whom peacekeepers gave passports? But what were they thinking about Russia when kokiti and his corrupted govermant dont let them to have normal healthcare? water, sanitation, roads and so on.. why you, Russians were not so frustrated about your citizrns. meanwile georgian govermant was bilding PH fasilities and schools, roads, water pipes and so on for them and Georgians who were living there?
So were was PUtin and his little brother Medvevdev when kokiti was putng in his pockets your money? or maybe this money was distributed in another pockets too? I more milin is not a bad thing i suppose...
Eka,
First, I'm not Russian, and I'm not defending Russia. I'm just trying to chat and find out the truth.
Second, I don't know who is kokiti?!
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Platon - 08-28-2008
Platon Wrote:Benn Wrote:Putin acts the way he has to, I think. Imagine Russia didn't respond to the attack on Tsishvili, what would the Russian citizens from South Ossetia think about Russia then? They want defense from Russia, they got it.
He really cares of russian citizens. He has very nice methods to fulfill the job. Grozny, Nordost, Beslan, Kursk, Politkovskaja & Co. oh ja Litvinenko.
but he is not Stalin, he can't hide the trace. The ability of cunning is lucking. Even Stalin made compromises with USA and the West, he knew how far could he reach his hand. He loves money toooooo. he wants to buy hole EU. That's why europeans found the occasion to trap him at last and they do not give up this time not because they are in fond of georgian people, I am not so naive like you. I never can defend my president like you. Just try to be as you are and not as russian or russophil. For russians Ossetians and Abkhazians are the same
chornajopi as georgians. and you want to persuade me you really are ready to sacrifice your apolonic body for the save of Russian citizens which barely can speak russian?
Re: Who started the war in S.Ossetia: Georgia or Russia? - Benn - 08-28-2008
Putin needs no money, you are wrong. I heard he's a millionaire. His wife runs a mobile telephone service operator.