aranar63 Wrote:hey peace keeper, afraid of Russia, please, you and all Russian sob can come and pass by we will be waitinf for you here in sunny Florida, come and defend your people, afraid of you, who are you kidding, and what did you think you guys are, i tell you an paper dragon, come on people there is Russia who has always being afraid of the west, remember what will it happend if the west no longer buy your oil and gas? to your economy, paper tiger, come on little people, This the one who think is big to take on the small, is always the weakest one. Letm me know when are the Russis invading Florida, we will be waiting, ha ha ha, keep dreaming you POS

aranar63 Wrote:hey peace keeper, afraid of Russia, please, you and all Russian sob can come and pass by we will be waitinf for you here in sunny Florida, come and defend your people, afraid of you, who are you kidding, and what did you think you guys are, i tell you an paper dragon, come on people there is Russia who has always being afraid of the west, remember what will it happend if the west no longer buy your oil and gas? to your economy, paper tiger, come on little people, This the one who think is big to take on the small, is always the weakest one. Letm me know when are the Russis invading Florida, we will be waiting, ha ha ha, keep dreaming you POS

aranar63 Wrote:qwest, the wra in Serbia was totally diff then this, this is a war of ocupation, like Germany attack Russia in WWII, you guys want to see it the way you want to, and spin the thruth, keep spinning, again Georgia did not invade Russia, why don't you invaded lets say Latvia or Estonia? you Hitler and Mendedivil won't dare to do that, You guy are the militarize one, for over 70 year you you fathers and gradfathers, where raise in a militarize totalitarian state, did i think you guys have change? LMAO, not in a million years, it is time to stop the expansion of Russia, it is your people choice, either by talking or by war, but this can not stand. You guys can try to spinn the truth as much as you can, like in Soviet times, those time are long gone.
You Russian people and your leathers should start behaving like civilize people and respect, every other former SSU sovereignity, but i see it is too much to ask for you people. Nothing make agression to be justified nothing, Ossettia is not a recognize state, it is still part of Georgia, do not spinn this, i know your are acostun to believe what you pupet master of the Kremlin tell you, thats the way it was for over 70 years, at leats we know now, Russia won't and want no change. So every US citizens get ready we will have to go to war with "mother Russia" sooner or later, like gen Patton said we should have taking care of this at the end of WWII.

aranar63 Wrote:Well, Americans haven't been producing anything really except guns, pop-ideology and green paper with numbers on it since the late 1980's. So what? You know, baby, these arguments of yours are no good. There are issues to discuss about Russian economy, that's true, but dollar lost half of its might during last 5 years - due to the new EU currency. And will lose more. USA is quickly progressing in becoming a third-rate country - which it was in 19th century. You are not in a position to dictate anything to anybody anymore. Markets, political realities etc. are changing quickly. Maybe - even very likely - that Russia is a regime not sustainable economically and politically in the long run. But, you know, neither is America. One cannot help recognizing it.

No we don't, we used our money to lift China out of poverty, remember we still are the only 13 trillion dollars economy in the world and probably will be for the next 10 years, what is Russia? !/5 i do not even know if it has become a industrialize nation yet. Now you want to bet on that, we would neber let it go that far, and if we became a 3 rated nation, what will be Russia etc become, it is americas consumerism fulling your economies, did you get that, look at the euro falling it was 1.59 it is 1.48, and as far as to dictate, remember we spend 4 times more on our defense budget then 25 Russian put together, and it is just 3% of our GDP, 43,000 USD a year is the median income here what is in Russia, 3000 ? 4000?
yes we have problems, nothing that we can not solve on our own, but as our economie goes so does the world
and that means Russia. I bet you that you know this, if Russia will be so beautiful, why are so many of your countryman in my country and not the other way around? Americans don't emigrate and if we do not to Russia for sure, if i go to Miami or any other US citie, i ill find Russian who just emigrate it to the states in the last 10 yeasr, go around Moskow and look for americans .
mother Russia has problems bigger then ours,but one thing it won't do is touch a NATO member state.
It will play its game with weaker nations but thats is.
By the way,what did Russia produce, did you womens don't like the Chevys, Cadillacs, etc etc oh i forgot is not in Moskow the biggest FORD dealerdhip in the world, we are still a producing country and our products are sold all over the world, and to tell you the truth i have seeing Americas mede products in Russia, but so far no Russian made in the States, besides Girls married to US citizens, it is this your greatest export.
You guys have problems if it is.

aranar63 Wrote:Why do you want to change someone and do not want to think of changing yourself? It's time now. Russia went too far in this conflict. That's not even a question. But Georgia has made a mistake in assaulting Ossetia and is continuing doing stupid things. This is absolutely clear that EU and USA involvement is not possible. Saakashvili recognizes that he miscalculated - but he would not stop and ready to sacrifice more lives for his stubbornness. This is clear that USA is thinking of new president for Georgians. What's bad about it is that Georgians will naturally elect him (actually, her, for I think it will be Nino Burjanidze) thinking that it was their choice. Well, this is Georgian democracy at its best. This is all very sad. Criminals on both sides - Russian and Georgian.

I do not wish to change anybody, Georgia assaulting South Ossetia is like Houston under US military control, when did South Ossetia became part of Russia? please post a link so i can read it, South Ossetia is not a country and it is not a part of Russia, you are the agressor (Russia) who is next Ukraine? Kazakhastan?
We know it won't touch the Baltic States or Poland.
and by the way what will happen to russia if the EU will stop buying oil and gas from Russia by lets say 30%, intervention is always posible, look at your Stockmarket. But my point was, your people will never change their militaristic ways, personally i don't give a D if you guy change or not, it is sad that a country with so much culture, behave like neanderthals in the 21 century

aranar63 Wrote:Why do you want to change someone and do not want to think of changing yourself? It's time now. Russia went too far in this conflict. That's not even a question. But Georgia has made a mistake in assaulting Ossetia and is continuing doing stupid things. This is absolutely clear that EU and USA involvement is not possible. Saakashvili recognizes that he miscalculated - but he would not stop and ready to sacrifice more lives for his stubbornness. This is clear that USA is thinking of new president for Georgians. What's bad about it is that Georgians will naturally elect him (actually, her, for I think it will be Nino Burjanidze) thinking that it was their choice. Well, this is Georgian democracy at its best. This is all very sad. Criminals on both sides - Russian and Georgian.

I do not wish to change anybody, Georgia assaulting South Ossetia is like Houston under US military control, when did South Ossetia became part of Russia? please post a link so i can read it, South Ossetia is not a country and it is not a part of Russia, you are the agressor (Russia) who is next Ukraine? Kazakhastan?
We know it won't touch the Baltic States or Poland.
and by the way what will happen to russia if the EU will stop buying oil and gas from Russia by lets say 30%, intervention is always posible, look at your Stockmarket. But my point was, your people will never change their militaristic ways, personally i don't give a D if you guy change or not, it is sad that a country with so much culture, behave like neanderthals in the 21 century

aranar63 Wrote:Some videos for you, me friend... CNN would never show anything like this...

peacekeeper, just aswer me this, since when is south Ossetia par of Russia? may be i miss the anexation.
or how many embassies in South Ossetia? oh imean foreing not Russia's.
By the way Direct Tv not only gets you CNN but Russian and Europeans channels to, did you have the same acces? and if e want we got to our laptops and surf and find the truth, but we do not believe what Washington tell us, this is not the Soviet Union, or mother Russia.
I have lieve in Europe for over 8 years and being in Russia also, have you ever being in the US, i doubt it.
My friend Putin=Hitler and Mended evil+ Goehring

aranar63 Wrote:Yes it was, when we went there we had international madate to do this and to Iraq too, it is our money rebuilding that country, and yes we are cowboys with a lot of money and a lot of guns , the best money can buy, not like you decrepid army with 20 years old tanks and planes, as far as nuclear weapons, did you think we care, we have more the you do, yes we can destroy the world 100 times over our delivery systems are the best in the world, the size of our military budget is the size of you entire GDP, but it is only a 3% of our GDP.
why did the invasion stop, was it because your country does not have the guts to try and see their oil revenue go down by 20 to 30%, this will wreck your economy, yes we have problems in the US, and yes our debdt is 9.5 trillions dollars, did you guys know what is the extent of our wealth as a country?
We use the natural ressources of other countries, like yours, we don't use ours, we have the most extensive ressources untap in the industrialize world.
South Ossetia has being part of Georgia since Stalin times, what now will you try to reconquer Alaska?
you guys know this won't happend, Putin and Meded-eveil don't have the guts to do this.
Did we care as far as what happend to Russia, probably we do, can we live without it, yes for ove 70 years
we did so yes. can Russia live without the west No, did your country wants to do commerc in the WTO yes, cab they get there on their own NO, so please, revise your history
Look you "protector of weak and defender of the oppressed" wasnt Kosovo part of Serbia?! Was Iraq BIG LOOK AT THE MAP IF YOU HAVE ONE!!! Have you found any WMD there?!!! Havent you granted independance to kosovo against all international laws?!! And you dare condamn us!!! More than that there were treats! Ha stupid janki, you cowboy dont know what you talking about! If no one buys our oil and resources that could be tragedy but unlike you some people have at laest half of thier brain and know that unstable big contry with nuclear arsenal and capability to sell nuclear technologies is greave treat to the world, that is why every educated man knows that Russia must remain stable and strong. So think about that ! If you can of course.
Beacon of democracy, bastion of freedom ha. Read previus replics and you will understand why Russian troops are there i dont want to repeat myself.

Yes it was, when we went there we had international madate to do this and to Iraq too, it is our money rebuilding that country, and yes we are cowboys with a lot of money and a lot of guns , the best money can buy, not like you decrepid army with 20 years old tanks and planes, as far as nuclear weapons, did you think we care, we have more the you do, yes we can destroy the world 100 times over our delivery systems are the best in the world, the size of our military budget is the size of you entire GDP, but it is only a 3% of our GDP.
why did the invasion stop, was it because your country does not have the guts to try and see their oil revenue go down by 20 to 30%, this will wreck your economy, yes we have problems in the US, and yes our debdt is 9.5 trillions dollars, did you guys know what is the extent of our wealth as a country?
We use the natural ressources of other countries, like yours, we don't use ours, we have the most extensive ressources untap in the industrialize world.
South Ossetia has being part of Georgia since Stalin times, what now will you try to reconquer Alaska?
you guys know this won't happend, Putin and Meded-eveil don't have the guts to do this.
Did we care as far as what happend to Russia, probably we do, can we live without it, yes for ove 70 years
we did so yes. can Russia live without the west No, did your country wants to do commerc in the WTO yes, cab they get there on their own NO, so please, revise your history

qwerty Wrote:Well, I agree with most of the above. Can only add that situation really is very complicated in the region and one should not make decisions too hastily as to who's "bad". Putin is an ass, no doubt about it. But in this case there are quite a lot of excuses. That USA in a way provoked the situation in beyond doubt - by having supported military ambitions of Georgia by means of selling huge amounts of weapons and sending instructors. I repeat, Putin IS an asshole, but Saakashvili looks just insane. He would sell his mother if it helped his personal reputation. He's put his country on a very risky track.