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[really georgian]

do you know that Putin's stepfather was an Armenian,that they lived in Georgia and his mother still lives in the village which Russians have bombed?

[really georgian]

do you know that Putin's stepfather was an Armenian,that they lived in Georgia and his mother still lives in the village which Russians have bombed?

[niniko]

I Apologize for bad English. I am citizen of Russia. I want to tell:
Russia never did not attack the first. Georgia is guilty in this conflict. People of South Ossetia is our (Russian) people, and Georgia wanted to destroy these people. And Russia is obliged to protect citizens.
Recollect, once we have exempted the world from fascism (in 1945).

First of all, I say that such little country as Georgia could not start war with powerfull russia, the ather fact is that people of South Ossetia is Georgian people they are settlered in Shida Qartli, the teritory they live is Georgia. I want to say that in our coauntry live people of different nationality and we don't destroy them, we are tolorant nation and why must we destroied South Ossatians?

[niniko]

Dear Georgian Brothers and Sisters in Christ, take notice, Russia is your neighbor,if Georgia need help Russia would be the first to extend you hand,hat'ing Russians you are helpping Western and proWestern blood-suckers, look what ex president of the USA B.Clinton and G.W.Bush did to your brothers Orthodox Christians Serbs in Kosovo.
Unless some sort of interest, on what base G.W.Bush justify orderibg Russians to respec georgian borders if they didn't respect Serbian, insted in favor of the Albanian terrorist, with deplete uranium bombs for 78 days they bomb Serbia?...they act like leamb, brother Geogians-be aware of the wolf.

my dear do you know georgian history? Along our (Georgians) history Russia annual a decisian , Russia never helped Georgia.

[niniko]

Listen EU! the only country in the world now, which wants the 3rd world war is the Russia as I see!!!And Georgia for Russian is now the field to show to the whole world their intenstions and how mighty they are!!!

You are quite right my dear!!! gaixare genacvale...

[niniko]

In my opinion, Georgians are very proud, but can't understand why. Yes, many years ago it conflicted with Russia, but now it should be over and they should establish peace!

No, we (Georgians) are patriots, love Georgia and never let anybody destroy Georgia's territory.
gmerto daipare aqartvelo, i xom gvtismhobli wilxvedri qveyanaa...

[SiD]

No, we (Georgians) are patriots, love Georgia and never let anybody destroy Georgia's territory.
gmerto daipare aqartvelo, i xom gvtismhobli wilxvedri qveyanaa...

Who is destroing it? It is lebiration not conquest. And all your patriotism and rediness has worked only for five days conflict, not impressive to say the least.

[really georgian]

Russia is destroying it, if they were peaceable why did they bomb the capital Tbilisi? what were they doing in Gori? our patriotism work always!

Who is destroing it? It is lebiration not conquest. And all your patriotism and rediness has worked only for five days conflict, not impressive to say the least.[/quote]

[Terry]

Why did Russia attack Tbilisi? Well because the main power is in Tbilisi. Saakashvili had to felt a threat upon him, so he could realize what he was doing before attacking Ossetia.

[niniko]

Why did Russia attack Tbilisi? Well because the main power is in Tbilisi. Saakashvili had to felt a threat upon him, so he could realize what he was doing before attacking Ossetia.

hmmm...well Saakashvili was not first who atteck Ossetia, it was Russia who started the war!!! if it was Georgia how could we fight aginst with powerfull Russia?

[SiD]

Why did Russia attack Tbilisi? Well because the main power is in Tbilisi. Saakashvili had to felt a threat upon him, so he could realize what he was doing before attacking Ossetia.

Do you really think he is that important? Tbilisi isnt small city besides refugees fled to it so attack Tbilisi would mean no small number of civilian casulties right? And Tbilisi do not look "attacked", more likely target was military infrostructure or some other target nearby but not city itself. Saakashvili is not so important as some like to believe and frankly i do not think he would be reelected, but after all it is up to georgians or at least it should be.

[M.Helen]

Saakashvili was important at that moment. That's because killing a leader during a war causes a lot of misbalance to the enemy. Besides, the opposite party could overtake the power and the conflict could have been ended at once.

[Tamara_Georgia Girl]

Its very simple, RUssia need pupets everywhere, but mostly near its influential area!! so its really clear no matter what kind of govt we'd have here, they will always try to coup ! i can remind u the putsch in 90's, when former Soviet union country Russia with its big effort to destabiliaze situation here, first caused civil war , then they couped Zviad Gamsakhrdia our first president, who declared Georgia as a souvereign country and had chosen direction to west !! after him R/F put its pupet Shevardnadze (former Foreign minister of USSR) here, who damaged this country and sold Abkhazia and So called South Ossetia,SHida KArtli, and in fresh past when Saalashvili came, relaped the same...
Georgia only wants peace and stable divelopmence, which won't happen if our neighbour continues provocations here ! we are the NAtion and we can dicide where to go and how to react in international policy.. i think its enough clear to see that Russia had never respected Georgia as the souvereign country, and still acts like that... for two centuries we were sustaining it, but in XXI century we are not going to do the same!!

[Steven]

eorgia only wants peace and stable divelopmence

I understand you. But, take into consideration that not for every Georgian can see peace without in their country without Russia. So Georgia's problem is that its population's opinion is divided into two parts.

[SiD]

Saakashvili was important at that moment. That's because killing a leader during a war causes a lot of misbalance to the enemy. Besides, the opposite party could overtake the power and the conflict could have been ended at once.

Not right. War lasted for days so it wasnt needed to kill leader to bring anymore misbalance. Georgia wasnt in position to wage war against Russia so to kill Saakashvili would bring nothing good. It would be seen as weakness, like big Russia was frightened of one spirited man who gave up everything for his country, or so it would have been said. His flaws and mistackes would be forgotten and only image of hero would remain. Man whos enemies desided to kill him becouse they couldnt do anything else. His words would be seen as unconvinient true that Russia wanted to silence at any cost and trough this could be even seen as true. Why to do it than? Better is to let him be so everyone can see in whos interests he acted and what his policy brought. And as i said previusly opposition now has stronger position, it is quite unlikely that Saakashvili would be reelected but as i said i cant know that for sure. But from what i ve seen Saakashvili was enxius to create image of some priority target, but he isnt such a good actor.

[Tamara_Georgia Girl]

So Georgia's problem is that its population's opinion is divided into two parts.

who told u that?? I am georgian here and i know better! i have relatives in Russia and i can assure u that even our people who lives there consider, that Russia interferes and intensifies in this region lot, and their influance have to be stoped in our country, they've brought here too much blood over centuries!
U can find only few people who still supports living with ''big brother'',and they are mostly radical comunists or traitors!

[Tamara_Georgia Girl]

i said previusly opposition now has stronger position, it is quite unlikely that Saakashvili would be reelected

It is quite interesting where from u can get such information ? I live here and i can tell u that opposition can do nothing. The same about Saakashvili, whom i don't support! but in this case i want to advice u to stop kind of conclusions, and please refrain from making such false remarks!

[SiD]

i said previusly opposition now has stronger position, it is quite unlikely that Saakashvili would be reelected

It is quite interesting where from u can get such information ? I live here and i can tell u that opposition can do nothing. The same about Saakashvili, whom i don't support! but in this case i want to advice u to stop kind of conclusions, and please refrain from making such false remarks!

It is not information it is my opinion, parhaps i am wrong i havent told that i KNOW that, in the end it is or should be (if democracy in georgia works) business of georgian people. As georgian you would have more insight on the matter i suppose. But i dont get it a little. you write

opposition can do nothing. The same about Saakashvili

you mean he can do nothing either? Or that i am wrong that he wouldnt be reelected?

[SiD]

So Georgia's problem is that its population's opinion is divided into two parts.

who told u that?? I am georgian here and i know better! i have relatives in Russia and i can assure u that even our people who lives there consider, that Russia interferes and intensifies in this region lot, and their influance have to be stoped in our country, they've brought here too much blood over centuries!
U can find only few people who still supports living with ''big brother'',and they are mostly radical comunists or traitors!

And your relatives are radical communists or traitors? Becouse if they live in Russia they live quite close to "big brother" and they are not so much concerned about blood over centuries

[Tamara_Georgia Girl]

NO comment about ur posts !

[Benn]

By the way, how is the opposition in Georgia acting after the conflict with Russia. Did it gain popularity or, on the contrary, lost the rating position? And when will the parliamentary elections take place in Georgia?

[SiD]

NO comment about ur posts !

Good. But i have quite many comments about yours.

[Iberia]

I have never had a high opinion of Putin, as well as of other Russian official. A world conquest is the Russian national idea starting from the middle Ages. There is a joke that an average Russian man as ever has the three deep desires: (i) to drink much vodka; (ii) neighbor’s cow to be died; (iii) to become Russia a world power. The problem is where is the World when Russia is occupying Georgia? When it carries ethnic cleansing? When it kills civilians and meanwhile cynically speaks about its “peacemaker role”? The World makes “strong” statements! Wow!!! Just bla, bla, bla. For your pipelines and strategic interests in Georgia, we have been damaged. Russia does not care the fortunes of Abkhaz/Ossetia nations. It was a casus belli. It wants more…

[M.Helen]

I must disagree with you, Iberia. Ask yourself, did Russia ever had intentions or at least hints in conquering countries that are not neighbouring it? It has to fight only its neighbours which are not grateful for what they have.

[SiD]

I suppose Russia isnt most eacefull country but i doubt that every russian dreams about world conquest. To be world power and world domination are different things. Who needs to conquer world anyway? No one i suppose it is just the way to collect all existing problems.