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[b-j]

Many pl miss the blunt fact in the sea of speedy media.

I'd like to point to a few of them.

Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed
September 29, 2000 - a week before

123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians

and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.

[b-j]

Israelis and Palestinians Killed

September 29, 2000 -a week before

1,062 Israelis and

at least 4,876 Palestinians have been killed

since September 29, 2000.

[b-j]

Israelis and Palestinians Injured

September 29, 2000 - a week before

8,341 Israelis and

33,034 Palestinians have been injured

since September 29, 2000

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Daily U.S. Taxes to Israel and the Palestinians
Fiscal Year 2007

During Fiscal Year 2007, the U.S. gave more than $6.8 million per day to Israel and

$0.3 million per day to the Palestinians

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UN Resolutions Targeting Israel and the Palestinians
1955 - 1992

Israel has been targeted by at least 65 UN resolutions and

the Palestinians have been targeted by none

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Current Number of Political Prisoners and Detainees

1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians,

while 10,756 Palestinians are currently imprisoned
by Israel

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Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes
1967 - a week before

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 18,147 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967

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Current Illegal Settlements on the Other’s Land

Israel currently has 223 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land

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[gomboreli]

It's worth mentioning that 29/09/2000 is the date when Ariel Sharon went to visit a disputed area in Jerusalem which sparked angry protests consequently turned into the II Intifada.
Here are some other casualty figures. Brackets indicate people aged under 18. Figures are taken from the UN:
2005 - 216 (52) Palestinians 48 (6) Israelis
2006 - 678 (127) Palestinians 25 (2) Israelis
2007 - 396 (43) Palestinians 13 (0) Israelis
Had higher casualty figures represented the Israeli losses, I bet the world would have arisen hue and cry about the second Jewish Holocaust...
A great article telling an appalling truth about the conflict:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 15045.html

[b-j]

read about UN report of war crimes in GAZA , and the reaction of TUC to the matter
in the fpllowing topic

political-debates/un-report-of-war-crimes-t3083.html

[Benn]

read about UN report of war crimes in GAZA , and the reaction of TUC to the matter
in the fpllowing topic

political-debates/un-report-of-war-crimes-t3083.html

You know, how said would not be, but let's remember who have done and said those words... of course human beings !!!! regretful, but I understood that people(especially those who hold the power) do not learn from others neither from theirs mistakes, and you know why? because they play not with their life's ....

[Guest]

read about UN report of war crimes in GAZA , and the reaction of TUC to the matter
in the fpllowing topic

political-debates/un-report-of-war-crimes-t3083.html

You know, how said would not be, but let's remember who have done and said those words... of course human beings !!!! regretful, but I understood that people(especially those who hold the power) do not learn from others neither from theirs mistakes, and you know why? because they play not with their life's ....

Benn are anti semitic?

[solzhenitsyn08]

PALESTINIAN CHILDREN ARE KILLED IN WARS.
ISRAELI CHILDREN ARE KILLED IN TERRORIST ATTACKS!

[Faw_Peter]

ISRAELI CHILDREN ARE KILLED IN TERRORIST ATTACKS!

If I'm not wrong not only in Israel are terrorist attacks but all over the world... was some attacks even in schools were have died children that even does not know what means terrorist...

[Guest]

Moderator should close this anti-semitic topik.

[Benn]

Moderator should close this anti-semitic topik.

Why they should close? If are persons who like this topic and are interested to speak about i don't see any problems...

[Guest]

Moderator should close this anti-semitic topik.

Why they should close? If are persons who like this topic and are interested to speak about i don't see any problems...

Israel has the right to live in peace. And they will even if it means military efforts.
I still think this post is anti-semitic and demand it to be closed

[Faw_Peter]

Israel has the right to live in peace. And they will even if it means military efforts.

I agree with you... but the solution is not in military efforts...so they only will count the bodies...

[G44r4]

It's a difficult situation,
but if they would stop killing each other,
it would be much easier to solve!

[Guest]

It's a difficult situation,
but if they would stop killing each other,
it would be much easier to solve!

wow you are must be some kind of genious to come up with such brilliant solution. BRAVO

[Big_Becka]

I am not sure that this thread is anti-semitic. The western media tends to be pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian (after all, the situation is partially the fault of those governments who didn't know what to do with Israel or the large number of displaced Jews after the second world war...)

I see this thread as an antedote to the anti-Muslim reports we often see. We must remember that there are two sides to this conflict.

[b-j]

Thanks for all of you, speaking of Gaza were 1.500.000 pl are living in a hard siege is somthing human and not anti anything, with respect to all of you..

Human rights organizations called for helping Gaza pl see:
hot-topics/amnesty-also-call-to-save-gaza-t2454.html

And it's a UN matter also, see the latest:
post25636.html#p25636

[Lorry]

Jews are not European colonists but a people with a historical claim to the land they call Israel. Large numbers of Arabs have been living in parts of the same land for centuries. Those who call themselves Palestinians do not form or feel part of any other country.

[gomboreli]

More or less Jews in general are as bad or as good as any other people around. Therefore, they can be hardly blamed for the living hell called Gaza.
As far as the Israeli policy in Palestine is concerned, it is most vividly and comprehensively described in 'Occupation 101', the prize-winning documentary that I'd recommend to those interested in roots of the conflict.

[michelle06]

More or less Jews in general are as bad or as good as any other people around. Therefore, they can be hardly blamed for the living hell called Gaza.
As far as the Israeli policy in Palestine is concerned, it is most vividly and comprehensively described in 'Occupation 101', the prize-winning documentary that I'd recommend to those interested in roots of the conflict.

Why Gaza called that?

It is that true that the people who leave in Gaza is bad?

I think is not, I feel their are people around is not all bad.

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[Bahamut]

Perhapse if the Arafat invented “Palestinian” people accepted that Israel has a right to exist, stopped targeting civilians in Israel, stopped the terrorists from operating from within their own civilian populations and hiding behind their women’s aprons, and instead of using their kids lives as propaganda took care of them as the Israeli people do for their civilians. things might start to improve for them.

How many rockets were launched against Israeli civilian targets by terrorists operating from within Gaza after Israel pulled out of Gaza as an indication of their desire to achieve peace before operation “Cast Lead” took place?

And how many times did the Gaza based terrorists warn the people in the target area before each wave of attacks?

It’s independently recorded that over four thousand five hundred rocket and mortar shells had been fired from Gaza up to the end of 2008, and the number of warnings ……………. Zero.

I just wonder how many other nations would be as patient as the Israelis have been, I wonder how long the Turks would put up with incessant rocket fire from Greece for example before getting stuck in or how many warnings they would give of where they were about to attack.

Judging by their refusals to even accept much less offer an apology for their genocide against the Armenian people my guess is not long and well before the number had racked up to 4,500.

[b-j]

The question is what is Israel?

What are it's borders?

The international recognised border (until there is any mutually agreed changes) is the Green line.

Unfortunately, Israel has transferred over 500,000 colonists into occupied territories (West Bank - Golan and Gaza - Sinai - Lebanon in the past) in contravention of international law.

The lack of negotiated borders is the weeping wound that defines most issues associated with Israel

Israel ethnically cleansed 531 Arab villages in 1948. In many cases, executing any captives as Israel did not have prison camps to keep them in.

!!

try reseaching for
Deir Yassin

as an example of this ethnical cleansing

[mikalee70]

Israel is a sacred country but having trouble behind the sacred land.There are lots of people dies because of the war.People in Israel is not only the one who start the war,there are also foreign country like Iraq and Bangladesh who started the tragic life and begin the war.


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[b-j]

Some new pictures from there...

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[alisha88]

This is not the case with only Palestine or Israel. There are still many countries where people die just because of government decisions and I really hate that. Some people are crazy.